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Post by Deweb on Aug 27, 2004 5:49:32 GMT -5
Hello!
I have read some revieuws and hear some story's about "iron council". And, now rize at me the qeustion of you can read the book without finishing "The scar".
Greetings, Deweb
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Post by rockhound on Aug 27, 2004 20:56:40 GMT -5
I'm only a few chapters into Council at this point, but I'd say it's quite readable without having read the Scar first.
China Mieville has set up the books that way on purpose. Bellis was only mentioned as an afterthought in PSS, and the Scar explains everything you need to know from PSS to make sense (although it's enhanced if you have read it).
Likewise for "Council."
From everything I've heard, it takes place at least a generation after Perdido and the Scar...
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Post by stray on Aug 27, 2004 21:32:43 GMT -5
I'm about ten pages from the end and yes, you can read Iron Council without having to read the other novels. However, when you read about the nightmares people had long ago, that is a reference to the events of Perdido Street Station.
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Post by rockhound on Aug 27, 2004 22:34:17 GMT -5
Yeah, it does help... but not necessary
For example, last year at TORCON, China read to us the chapter where we meet Adley Gladley (chapter 6). It's got a puppet show about a couple of characters one should recognise from PSS...
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Post by Deweb on Aug 28, 2004 17:37:15 GMT -5
so it is intresting to know, but not extremly needed?
But...if ik hear that there are talkings to dreams and things of PSS, i think that maybe reading PSS is needed and TS not (i am on the moment in the book, nobody knows about a war on new crobuzon. So..don't tell more please).
Grt. Deweb
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Post by stray on Aug 30, 2004 19:27:49 GMT -5
Yeah, you definitely don't need to read The Scar, but the events of Perdido Street Station are only referred to in passing in Iron Council.
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Post by Abyss on Oct 20, 2004 10:08:32 GMT -5
Just my never so humble opinion: The Scar, while brilliant, is utterly unessential to a reading of IC, but I would say that PSS is fairly fundamental. You can get by fine without having read it, but much of IC makes more sense after PSS.
- Abyss, did catch the one Grindylow reference in IC.
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Post by bibliojim on Mar 21, 2005 11:29:30 GMT -5
I read Iron Council and have NOT yet read The Scar or Perdido Station. Of course I don't know what I missed by not having read them, but I found the book understandable and very impressive without having read the others first.
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Post by Curufea on Mar 21, 2005 21:17:36 GMT -5
They do refer to each other now and then - but only in passing. The occasional odd historic note.
To me, they are all good and can all be read independantly and in any order.
However: if you do read them in order, the references will make more sense/be more easily linked/remembered.
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